Episode 6

[bbcurveimogen]

Hell yes, bitches. Say hello to your first two-time HOH.

So, as expected, Lori went from being a bitch to me on the boards and ignoring me on IM to sending me the PM below as soon as I won HOH and she knew her ass was toast. In it, she says that me putting her up would be stupid, but then admits she would have put me up if she had won HOH. How dumb is this bitch?

Anyway, here's the PM from Lori:


As of right now you can continue to hate me and put me up with whoever...just realize I am part of the jury phase now.....We can take that public argument between each other...and use it to our advantage....make ppl think we are fighting....

You know Me and Makosi are together...and there is one more who I shall remain nameless....that's three out of four votes against a person to lose this game.....Do the right thing and do not put me up...put up two people who haven't been active or didn't bother doing the competition or whatever...

Now you can choose to 1. Call me out and put me up anyway.

2. Play this game, go to the end and win it. YOU KNOW Dino is the most powerful person in this game. YOU KNOW if he makes it to the end he will WIN this game.

3. You make it to the end WITHOUT Dino. Keep me safe just one more week. You KNOW there is no chance in hell I am winning this game. For one I am weak at competitions and for two the whole house with the exception of two people hate me.


Think carefully hear Imogen....sure I said some shit to JJ and Dino...that was saying shit to say shit...but now think about the game and strategic gameplay here. I guarantee 110% if you keep me safe you are safe if me or the other person wins HoH.

My main target would be JJ and Dino. I won't lie and be upfront if I won hoh i would've put you and Dino up with Dino being the obvious target. But if you save me this week and don't put me up, as a nom or replacement nom then I CAN GUARANTEE your safety if my self or one other wins HOH.


Think about this seriously Imogen, don't just brush it off. How many deals have Dino made with every1? Think of gameplay and not emotional...PLEASE, THINK OF GAME PLAY AND NOT EMOTIONAL.


It's your decision and you're call....what do you think?

[bbcurveimogen]

Here is my key order and nominations for Episode 6:

Jessica
JJ
Dino
Billi

That means I have nominated Lori and Dan for eviction.

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Lori, I imagine it's no surprise that you have been nominated. The two of us have had quite the tumultuous relationship, but I don't really hate you. I'm just frustrated at your all-over-the-place game play.

You have tried to work everyone this entire game, telling everything to everyone and telling anything to anyone to advance yourself. While I admire your dedication to fight to stay (if we ignore all of last round's "vote me out immediately!" shenanigans), it is your mouth, your actions, and your double dealing that have put you in the position you're in now. It is also those things that have caused you to think that Sophie leaked DR information. She didn't. It's as simple as this: you told too many different people in the game too much and those people, shockingly, actually talked to each other and compared notes. Everyone knows that you are paranoid and full of lies, Lori, which is why people don't trust you. The funny thing is that if you had just stayed calm from the start of the jury phase on, you wouldn't have shot yourself in the foot.

But that's not even why I've nominated you. You are on the block because of the PM you sent me in the few hours since I won HOH. Allow me to explain the ways that you frustrated me with this PM:

After not talking with me all of last round and treating the house like utter crap with your homophobic rants, you immediately PM me this long message as soon as I win HOH about how it's my "call" as to what I do. Yes, I know it is my call. Thank you.

Your first paragraph in the PM included the gem of a statement: "just realize I am part of the jury phase now." NO DUH. You use this line with everyone all the time to try and get them to remember that this game isn't called BBCurve, it's apparently called BBLoriAutomaticallyGetsToWin. Oh, that's not the name of the game? Right, it's still BBCurve. We are ALL part of the jury phase and, yes, our actions do speak volumes now. You should have learned that during your crazy diatribes last round.

The next paragraph states, "You know Me and Makosi are together...and there is one more who I shall remain nameless....that's three out of four votes against a person to lose this game.....Do the right thing and do not put me up." This is actually the primary reason I'm nominating you. MATH SKILLS. 3 out of 7 does not a majority make. We tried to make you realize this last round, but I guess we should have been more basic in our lessons on fractions and percents. 3 pieces of pizza is not more than half of the pizza. The remaining 4 pieces of pizza are more than half of the pizza. If that wasn't bad enough, you go on to say, "I guarantee 110% if you keep me safe you are safe if me or the other person wins HoH." Again, MATH SKILLS. You can not, by definition, have more than 100%.

You spend the rest of the PM telling me how much of a threat Dino is, how I should nominate him, how he'll win if he gets to the end, blah blah. Maybe so, but if I had a choice between you or Dino getting HOH next round, I'd choose Dino ten thousand times over over you because my odds of being safe with him, while maybe not 100%, are significantly better than they'd be with you as HOH. And you say that you'd keep me safe next round, but I know better than to trust the pleas of desperate people. If I let you go this week and you became HOH next week, my ass would be gone with no doubt and I'd look like the fool who believed a beggar's promise.

Ok back to the PM - here's my favorite part: "...if I won hoh i would've put you and Dino up with Dino being the obvious target." So, you're asking me not to nominate you while in the same message saying that you would have nominated me? While I surely appreciate this glimmering moment of actual honesty from you, how am I supposed to feel comfortable thinking that I will be kept safe by you (and the people you somehow still have influence over?) when you also say that you would have nominated me?

Like I said, Lori, I don't really hate you. I actually enjoyed the times earlier in the game when we had similar goals in mind and could just talk without you being paranoid and over anxious all the time. I just can't respect your schizoid approach to the game anymore. You can't pull all the crap that you have, tell all the lies that you have, and then expect everyone to partner up with you and trust you.

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Dan. Dan, the man. I'm so sorry that I've had to nominate you. Hopefully, you can appreciate that Lori is my main target. However, I had to nominate a second person and I've chosen you for two main reasons.

First, out of everyone in the cast, you're probably around the least. As a result, I don't have much of an idea of where your head is at, gamewise, and I feel like you don't participate in the challenges and the game as much as the rest of the cast.

Second, and more importantly, from what I do know of you, you're just a really likeable guy and someone who people will want to keep around. Ultimately, I wanted to put up someone against Lori that was a genuinely nice guy, someone that people would almost certainly not vote out at this stage. Yes, Billi is also not around very much and I almost put him up against Lori, but he's just crass and aloof enough that people might decide to take the opportunity to take him out instead - I can't afford that kind of surprise. Clearly, I think it's only fair to the whole house that Lori go this week after what she put everyone through last week.

Dan, I sincerely hope that you stay this week and I hope we get more opportunities to chat about the game or just life in general. Best of luck.

[bbcurveimogen]

Ok, so those are my nominations. Here are my thoughts behind the nominations that I don't want to share with the house.

I really thought about putting up Jess/Dino because I know they have to be broken up at some point, but I think now is too early, especially since Dino would have a good shot at winning the veto even though he's a Have Not. I have thought about the possibility of backdooring him this round, though. That would leave the following people to play for HOH next round: Jessica, JJ, Billi, Dan, and Lori. Out of those five, JJ or Billi would almost certainly win, which would be brilliant for me since those are my two closest allies. I've discussed this possibility with Billi and, depending on how the nominations are received and the veto plays out, it just might happen. There is still a failsafe, though - evicting Lori. And that very well may happen, too. It's just too early (at least pre-veto) to turn on my alliance of me/JJ/Dino/Jess or Billi. That only leaves Lori and Dan as people that I can nominate this week and that's what has happened. Now, I just have to hope that whoever wins HOH next week can keep my ass safe. It's about to get ugly in here!!

[bbcurveimogen]

And here's my recent conversation with Billi where we discuss who I should nominate and how it should all go down. There's also discussion in this conversation about potentially backdooring Dino:

9:31:02 AM Billi: lol
9:32:24 AM bbcurveimogen: isn't that
9:32:25 AM bbcurveimogen: crazy?
9:32:53 AM Billi: yeah man
9:33:15 AM bbcurveimogen: like i can't even enumerate how many ways that is fucked up
9:33:22 AM bbcurveimogen: but anyway, i wanted to double check with you
9:33:25 AM bbcurveimogen: lori/dan as the noms?
9:33:34 AM Billi: yeah, thats fine
9:34:06 AM bbcurveimogen: ok just making sure. i'm going to put you as the last key again
9:34:12 AM bbcurveimogen: and say i was debating between putting you or dan up
9:34:24 AM Billi: my whole deal is that im concerned about having to play against dino in the next HOH
9:34:47 AM Billi: but theres good way for you to get rid of him and stay under the radar about it
9:34:47 AM bbcurveimogen: yeah fair enough. do you think i should nom dino/jess then?
9:34:54 AM Billi: *no
9:34:55 AM bbcurveimogen: backdoor him?
9:35:07 AM Billi: well what do you think
9:35:19 AM bbcurveimogen: i could be convinced, for sure
9:35:27 AM bbcurveimogen: tell me what you're thinking
9:35:29 AM Billi: i think from the standpoint that like next week i would have to play against either dino or lori in the HOH
9:35:37 AM Billi: and id feel better about going against lori
9:35:41 AM Billi: vs dino
9:35:42 AM Billi: for sure
9:35:51 AM Billi: but i dont want you to have to like blow your cover
9:35:53 AM bbcurveimogen: right
9:35:54 AM bbcurveimogen: hmm
9:36:03 AM Billi: its completely 100% up to youb
9:36:08 AM Billi: but thats kinda where my heads at
9:36:15 AM bbcurveimogen: so if i put up
9:36:18 AM Billi: ive got your back no matter what you do
9:36:22 AM bbcurveimogen: dino/jess
9:36:28 AM bbcurveimogen: dino would almost certainly win veto
9:36:30 AM bbcurveimogen: and i'd be fucked
9:36:35 AM Billi: right
9:36:35 AM bbcurveimogen: dino would have to be backdoored if we wanted him out
9:36:44 AM Billi: yeah
9:36:53 AM bbcurveimogen: i mean what we could do
9:36:56 AM bbcurveimogen: is i nominate lori/dan
9:37:00 AM Billi: but if you did that you couldnt make a fake deal with lori to keep her off your back
9:37:10 AM bbcurveimogen: and then me, you or maybe even jj could win veto
9:37:18 AM bbcurveimogen: veto dan maybe and be all savior-like
9:37:24 AM bbcurveimogen: and then i'd name dino as my replacement nom?
9:37:31 AM bbcurveimogen: oh please, i dont trust any deals with lori anymore
9:37:31 AM Billi: that would be the ideal way to do it
9:37:34 AM bbcurveimogen: fake or not
9:37:40 AM Billi: no no, im not saying that
9:37:51 AM Billi: im just saying that you might be able to pull her jury vote that way
9:38:00 AM Billi: if you give her a one week reprieve
9:38:17 AM bbcurveimogen: that assumes that she'd vote rationally
9:38:26 AM bbcurveimogen: i worry that she'd just be like "sucker!!!!!" if i dont nom her
9:38:35 AM Billi: well if for some reason dino were to go this week
9:38:40 AM Billi: she would FOR SURE be the next one out
9:38:40 AM bbcurveimogen: and then she'd win some random hoh like she almost did last week
9:38:55 AM Billi: i dont think anyone in the game would not put her up
9:39:00 AM bbcurveimogen: yeah i think if we want to backdoor dino
9:39:05 AM bbcurveimogen: it has to stay between you and i
9:39:14 AM bbcurveimogen: and it'd have to start with lori/dan noms
9:39:22 AM bbcurveimogen: b/c i cant blow my cover yet and nom anyone of jj/jess/dino
9:39:25 AM bbcurveimogen: and i'm not nomming you
9:39:25 AM Billi: alright
9:39:31 AM Billi: right
9:39:35 AM bbcurveimogen: my other worry
9:39:38 AM Billi: i appreciate that btw, lol
9:39:41 AM bbcurveimogen: is that i'm going to be away a lot of next week
9:39:48 AM bbcurveimogen: or at least in much less IM contact
9:39:55 AM bbcurveimogen: b/c my parents will be in town for my graduation
9:39:58 AM Billi: right
9:40:05 AM bbcurveimogen: so i dont want to get kaysared
9:40:24 AM bbcurveimogen: i mean what i'm relying on, to be perfectly frank, is you and jj to help keep me alive next week
9:40:47 AM bbcurveimogen: you're the two people i'm closest to, jj just from this game and you for obvious reasons
9:40:53 AM Billi: bitch, i aint gonna let nothing happen to you
9:41:03 AM bbcurveimogen: right. if i left, who would fluff you?
9:41:11 AM Billi: for sure
9:41:21 AM Billi: do you know how hard it is to get an erection looking at lori?
9:41:25 AM Billi: IMPOSSIBLE
9:41:25 AM bbcurveimogen: HAHAHAHAHAHA
9:41:34 AM bbcurveimogen: sorry i literally just LOLed everywhere
9:41:36 AM Billi: lmao
9:41:37 AM bbcurveimogen: my workmates are like wtf
9:41:39 AM bbcurveimogen:
9:41:58 AM bbcurveimogen: but yeah, i think backdooring dino could be brilliant this round, but it'd have to be a post-veto sneak attack
9:42:16 AM bbcurveimogen: and if dino went up in place of either lori or dan
9:42:23 AM bbcurveimogen: all we would need is your vote and jj's to evict dino
9:42:25 AM bbcurveimogen: and i could break the tie
9:42:26 AM Billi: yeah man, well go ahead and start if off with lori/dan and we can figure things out after veto and shit
9:42:29 AM bbcurveimogen: since there would be 4 votes then
9:42:47 AM Billi: well whoever came off the block would vote dino out in a heartbeat
9:42:51 AM bbcurveimogen: i just really really worry
9:42:56 AM bbcurveimogen: about setting this precedent
9:43:00 AM bbcurveimogen: of voting out strong challenge threats
9:43:01 AM bbcurveimogen: first makosi
9:43:03 AM bbcurveimogen: then dino
9:43:05 AM bbcurveimogen: i'd be next
9:43:19 AM bbcurveimogen: we've been good at controlling the groupthink so far
9:43:22 AM Billi: yeah, but whos going to do do it
9:43:30 AM bbcurveimogen: yeah. ok let's see
9:43:34 AM bbcurveimogen: if dino goes out this week
9:43:44 AM bbcurveimogen: it'd be either you or jj to win hoh
9:43:45 AM Billi: me and JJ have to HOH favorites next week
9:43:53 AM bbcurveimogen: since jess and dan wont do shit
9:43:55 AM Billi: right
9:43:57 AM bbcurveimogen: right
9:43:57 AM bbcurveimogen: ok
9:44:01 AM bbcurveimogen: i smell what you're stepping in
9:44:11 AM Billi: lol, right
9:44:17 AM bbcurveimogen: so if you won veto this week
9:44:26 AM bbcurveimogen: who would you take off the block?
9:44:33 AM bbcurveimogen: it could be a good way to get in with lori or dan
9:44:41 AM Billi: it really doesnt matter
9:44:45 AM bbcurveimogen: true
9:44:47 AM Billi: we can talk about it if/when it happens
9:44:52 AM bbcurveimogen: fair
9:44:56 AM Billi: see how bad lori takes it to be nominated
9:45:08 AM bbcurveimogen: exactly
9:45:15 AM bbcurveimogen: and i'm not going to tell her about the backdoor possibility
9:45:19 AM bbcurveimogen: b/c she will spread that in a heartbeat
9:45:19 AM Billi: right
9:45:22 AM Billi: oh for sure
9:46:11 AM Billi: and then if something crazy or nutty happens
9:46:22 AM Billi: we can play it safe and still get rid of lori
9:46:41 AM bbcurveimogen: right
9:46:42 AM bbcurveimogen: exactly
9:46:46 AM bbcurveimogen: and then you can domintae dino
9:46:56 AM Billi: werd
9:46:59 AM bbcurveimogen: and next week
9:47:04 AM bbcurveimogen: all six of us left will get to play veto
9:47:08 AM bbcurveimogen: so if you are nominated
9:47:12 AM bbcurveimogen: i can save your ass if need be
9:47:17 AM bbcurveimogen: and justify it some how
9:47:30 AM Billi: alright, rock on
9:47:33 AM bbcurveimogen:
9:47:37 AM bbcurveimogen: i'm writing my speech now
9:47:50 AM Billi: sweet
9:47:58 AM Billi: we've so go this shit in the bagt
9:48:03 AM bbcurveimogen: god i hope so
9:49:05 AM Billi: its thunderstorming like a mother fucker here right now
9:49:19 AM Billi: so if i disapear, either the electricity went out or im dead via tornado
9:49:41 AM bbcurveimogen: ok
9:49:42 AM bbcurveimogen: dont die!
9:49:44 AM bbcurveimogen: i need your vote!
9:49:46 AM bbcurveimogen: (and i like you)
9:49:53 AM bbcurveimogen: but most importantly your vote!
9:50:00 AM Billi: dotn worry, i just updated my bootlist
9:50:04 AM Billi: we good
9:50:06 AM bbcurveimogen: oh i forgot about bootlists
9:50:07 AM bbcurveimogen: haha
9:50:08 AM bbcurveimogen: ok
9:50:16 AM Billi: i dont think she ever asked for one this game
9:50:20 AM bbcurveimogen: right
9:50:21 AM bbcurveimogen: she didnt
9:53:58 AM Billi: whoa, we've got hail
10:27:15 AM bbcurveimogen: hey man
10:27:16 AM bbcurveimogen: are you around?
10:27:23 AM Billi: yeah dawg
10:27:30 AM bbcurveimogen: ok here's my speech
10:27:33 AM bbcurveimogen: let me know what you think
10:27:39 AM Billi: alright
10:27:39 AM bbcurveimogen: Lori, I imagine it's no surprise that you have been nominated.  The two of us have had quite the tumultuous relationship, but I don't really hate you...I'm just frustrated at your all-over-the-place game play.

You have tried to work everyone this entire game, telling everything to everyone and telling anything to anyone to advance yourself.  While I admire your dedication to fight to stay (if we ignore all of last round's "vote me out immediately!" shenanigans), it is your mouth, your actions, and your double dealing that have put you in the position you're in now.  It is also those things that have caused you to think that Sophie leaked DR information.  She didn't.  It's as simple as this:  you told too many different people in the game too much and those people, shockingly, actually talked to each other and compared notes.  Everyone knows that you are paranoid and full of lies, Lori, which is why people don't trust you.  The funny thing is that if you had just stayed calm from the start of the jury phase on, you wouldn't have shot yourself in the foot.

But that's not even why I've nominated you.  You are on the block because of the PM you sent me in the few hours since I won HOH.  Allow me to explain the ways that you frustrated me with this PM:

After not talking with me all of last round and treating the house like utter crap with your homophobic rants, you immediately PM me this long message as soon as I win HOH about how it's my "call" as to what I do.  Yes, I know it is my call.  Thank you.

Your first paragraph in the PM included the gem of a statement:  "just realize I am part of the jury phase now."  NO DUH.  You use this line to everyone all the time to try and get them to remember that this game isn't called BBCurve, it's apparently called BBLoriAutomaticallyGetsToWin.  Oh, that's not the name of the game?  Right, it's still BBCurve.  We are all part of the jury phase and, yes, our actions do speak volumes now.  You should have learned that during your crazy diatribes last round.

The next paragraph states, "You know Me and Makosi are together...and there is one more who I shall remain nameless....that's three out of four votes against a person to lose this game.....Do the right thing and do not put me up."  This is actually the primary reason I'm nominating you.  MATH SKILLS.  3 out of 7 does not a majority make.  We tried to make you realize this last round, but I guess we should have been more basic in our lessons on fractions and percents.  3 pieces of pizza is not more than half of the pizza.  The remaining 4 pieces of pizza are more than half of the pizza.  If that wasn't bad enough, you go on to say, "I guarantee 110% if you keep me safe you are safe if me or the other person wins HoH."  Again, MATH SKILLS.  You can not, by definition, have more than 100%.

You spend the rest of the PM telling me how much of a threat Dino is, how I should nominate him, how he'll win if he gets to the end, blah blah.  Maybe so, but if I had a choice between you or Dino getting HOH next round, I'd choose Dino ten thousand times over over you because my odds of being safe with him, while probably not 100%, are significantly better than they'd be with you as HOH.  And you say that you'd keep me safe next round, but I know better than to trust the pleas of desperate people.  If I let you go this week and you became HOH next week, my ass would be gone with no doubt and I'd look like the fool who believed a beggar's promise.

Ok back to the PM - here's my favorite part:  "...if I won hoh i would've put you and Dino up with Dino being the obvious target."  So, you're asking me not to nominate you while in the same message saying that you would have nominated me?  While I surely appreciate this glimmering moment of actual honesty from you, how am I supposed to feel comfortable thinking that I will be kept safe by you (and the people you somehow still have influence over?) when you also say that you would have nominated me?

Like I said, Lori, I don't really hate you.  I actually enjoyed the times earlier in the game when we had similar goals in mind and could just talk without you being paranoid and over anxious all the time.  I just can't respect your schizoid approach to the game anymore.  You can't pull all the crap that you have, tell all the lies that you have, and then expect everyone to partner up with you and trust you.

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Dan.  Dan, the man.  I'm so sorry that I've had to nominate you.  Hopefully, you can appreciate that Lori is my main target.  However, I had to nominate a second person and I've chosen you for two main reasons. 

First, out of everyone in the cast, you're probably around the least.  As a result, I don't have much of an idea of where your head is at, gamewise, and I feel like you don't participate in the challenges and the game as much as the rest of the cast. 

Second, and more importantly, from what I do know of you, you're just a really likeable guy and someone who people will want to keep around.  Ultimately, I wanted to put up someone against Lori that was a genuinely nice guy, someone that people would almost certainly not vote out at this stage.  Yes, Billi is also not around very much and I almost put him up against Lori, but he's just crass and aloof enough that people might decide to take the opportunity to take him out instead - I can't afford that kind of surprise.  Clearly, I think it's only fair to the whole house that Lori go this week after what she put everyone through last week. 

Dan, I sincerely hope that you stay this week and I hope we get more opportunities to chat about the game or just life in general.  Best of luck.
10:27:43 AM bbcurveimogen: crap too large
10:27:45 AM bbcurveimogen: ok i'll break it up
10:27:49 AM Billi: lol
10:27:53 AM bbcurveimogen: Lori, I imagine it's no surprise that you have been nominated.  The two of us have had quite the tumultuous relationship, but I don't really hate you...I'm just frustrated at your all-over-the-place game play.

You have tried to work everyone this entire game, telling everything to everyone and telling anything to anyone to advance yourself.  While I admire your dedication to fight to stay (if we ignore all of last round's "vote me out immediately!" shenanigans), it is your mouth, your actions, and your double dealing that have put you in the position you're in now.  It is also those things that have caused you to think that Sophie leaked DR information.  She didn't.  It's as simple as this:  you told too many different people in the game too much and those people, shockingly, actually talked to each other and compared notes.  Everyone knows that you are paranoid and full of lies, Lori, which is why people don't trust you.  The funny thing is that if you had just stayed calm from the start of the jury phase on, you wouldn't have shot yourself in the foot.

But that's not even why I've nominated you.  You are on the block because of the PM you sent me in the few hours since I won HOH.  Allow me to explain the ways that you frustrated me with this PM:

After not talking with me all of last round and treating the house like utter crap with your homophobic rants, you immediately PM me this long message as soon as I win HOH about how it's my "call" as to what I do.  Yes, I know it is my call.  Thank you.

10:27:59 AM bbcurveimogen: Your first paragraph in the PM included the gem of a statement:  "just realize I am part of the jury phase now."  NO DUH.  You use this line to everyone all the time to try and get them to remember that this game isn't called BBCurve, it's apparently called BBLoriAutomaticallyGetsToWin.  Oh, that's not the name of the game?  Right, it's still BBCurve.  We are all part of the jury phase and, yes, our actions do speak volumes now.  You should have learned that during your crazy diatribes last round.

The next paragraph states, "You know Me and Makosi are together...and there is one more who I shall remain nameless....that's three out of four votes against a person to lose this game.....Do the right thing and do not put me up."  This is actually the primary reason I'm nominating you.  MATH SKILLS.  3 out of 7 does not a majority make.  We tried to make you realize this last round, but I guess we should have been more basic in our lessons on fractions and percents.  3 pieces of pizza is not more than half of the pizza.  The remaining 4 pieces of pizza are more than half of the pizza.  If that wasn't bad enough, you go on to say, "I guarantee 110% if you keep me safe you are safe if me or the other person wins HoH."  Again, MATH SKILLS.  You can not, by definition, have more than 100%.

You spend the rest of the PM telling me how much of a threat Dino is, how I should nominate him, how he'll win if he gets to the end, blah blah.  Maybe so, but if I had a choice between you or Dino getting HOH next round, I'd choose Dino ten thousand times over over you because my odds of being safe with him, while probably not 100%, are significantly better than they'd be with you as HOH.  And you say that you'd keep me safe next round, but I know better than to trust the pleas of desperate people.  If I let you go this week and you became HOH next week, my ass would be gone with no doubt and I'd look like the fool who believed a beggar's promise.
10:28:05 AM bbcurveimogen:
Ok back to the PM - here's my favorite part:  "...if I won hoh i would've put you and Dino up with Dino being the obvious target."  So, you're asking me not to nominate you while in the same message saying that you would have nominated me?  While I surely appreciate this glimmering moment of actual honesty from you, how am I supposed to feel comfortable thinking that I will be kept safe by you (and the people you somehow still have influence over?) when you also say that you would have nominated me?

Like I said, Lori, I don't really hate you.  I actually enjoyed the times earlier in the game when we had similar goals in mind and could just talk without you being paranoid and over anxious all the time.  I just can't respect your schizoid approach to the game anymore.  You can't pull all the crap that you have, tell all the lies that you have, and then expect everyone to partner up with you and trust you.
10:28:09 AM bbcurveimogen: --

Dan.  Dan, the man.  I'm so sorry that I've had to nominate you.  Hopefully, you can appreciate that Lori is my main target.  However, I had to nominate a second person and I've chosen you for two main reasons. 

First, out of everyone in the cast, you're probably around the least.  As a result, I don't have much of an idea of where your head is at, gamewise, and I feel like you don't participate in the challenges and the game as much as the rest of the cast. 

Second, and more importantly, from what I do know of you, you're just a really likeable guy and someone who people will want to keep around.  Ultimately, I wanted to put up someone against Lori that was a genuinely nice guy, someone that people would almost certainly not vote out at this stage.  Yes, Billi is also not around very much and I almost put him up against Lori, but he's just crass and aloof enough that people might decide to take the opportunity to take him out instead - I can't afford that kind of surprise.  Clearly, I think it's only fair to the whole house that Lori go this week after what she put everyone through last week. 

Dan, I sincerely hope that you stay this week and I hope we get more opportunities to chat about the game or just life in general.  Best of luck.
10:31:23 AM Billi: very nice
10:31:34 AM bbcurveimogen: any edits?
10:32:02 AM Billi: nah, i think its dead on
10:32:31 AM bbcurveimogen: ok. should i beef up my slam against you?
10:32:53 AM Billi: nah, i think it works and its dead on and straight to the point
10:34:22 AM bbcurveimogen: ok good

[bbcurveimogen]

I just spoke with Dan briefly about me nominating him and he doesn't seem to have a big problem with it, or he's at least not trying to rock the boat. I affirmed to him that the votes were there to keep him and I even told him that I'd put Billi up against him if Lori won the veto, which is clearly not true. Anyway, as usual, not much out of old DannyBoy, but a bit more than he normally gives which is all I can ask at this point.

1:10:07 PM Dan: Hey
7:01:21 PM bbcurveimogen: hey dan
7:01:25 PM bbcurveimogen: sorry about the nomination
7:01:39 PM bbcurveimogen: i guarantee you that the votes are there for you to stay
7:06:08 PM Dan: hey
7:06:11 PM Dan: no worries
7:06:31 PM bbcurveimogen: ok good. i just want lori gone so bad
7:06:33 PM bbcurveimogen: for all of us
7:07:01 PM bbcurveimogen: so i had to pair a villain with a good guy to have the best shot of that happening
7:09:28 PM Dan: yeah
7:09:32 PM Dan: as long as she doesn't win the veto
7:09:58 PM bbcurveimogen: well if she wins veto, i'll put up billi and he'll easily get voted out over you
7:10:41 PM Dan: do you think so?
7:10:45 PM Dan: I hope =-O
7:11:16 PM bbcurveimogen: oh yeah. people know he's just a random floater.
7:11:28 PM bbcurveimogen: but i dont see lori winning any competition
7:17:55 PM Dan: haha i dont see her winning either
7:18:14 PM bbcurveimogen: so you should be fine. honestly, if you went home this round, i would eat my own poop
7:20:22 PM Dan: =-O
7:20:24 PM Dan: lol
7:30:58 PM bbcurveimogen: ok bud, i have to head out for now
7:31:02 PM bbcurveimogen: but i'll talk to you soon
7:31:10 PM Dan: ok
7:31:13 PM Dan: good night
7:31:17 PM bbcurveimogen: gnight!

[bbcurveimogen]

So Billi won the POV and he's almost certainly going to use it to save Lori. It's going to open the door for me to nominate Dino so we can backdoor him (with JJ and Billi's votes and mine as the tiebreaker if need be, though Lori will probably also vote Dino out). The crazy thing is that during the POV, Dino came up to me and said:

5:28:45 PM bbcurveimogen: ugh
5:28:51 PM bbcurveimogen: if billi wins this
5:28:55 PM bbcurveimogen: it will not be good
5:28:56 PM Dino: put me up
5:28:59 PM Dino: if he uses it
5:29:01 PM Dino: cuz i cant vote
5:29:10 PM Dino: then jess and jj can keep me
5:29:12 PM bbcurveimogen: are you sure?
5:29:16 PM Dino: yeah its the only way to be sure

Is he on crack? This turned out perfectly! Now, I won't be an asshole when I nominate him. I've already cleared it with Jessica (per Dino's permission) and I'll just need to get JJ on board and it'll be a done deal. And if Billi takes Dan off the block, we'll still have the votes to backdoor Dino. This is going to be great! This is one of the first times in the game, though, that I honestly don't know what's going to happen at the POV ceremony - who Billi will save. I told him to do what he thought was best, since I trust him completely. We'll see! Either way, Dino is going up and his ass is gone. Do I feel bad? A bit. But it's necessary. Unless people start coming after me now as a power / challenge threat. Eek!

5:03:44 PM Billi: im such a whiney bitch
5:03:50 PM bbcurveimogen:
5:10:15 PM bbcurveimogen: i think it's 80ish?
5:10:23 PM Billi: i said 70
5:10:28 PM bbcurveimogen: 78 i think
5:10:30 PM Billi: i guessed fast
5:11:38 PM Billi: you be my counter
5:11:43 PM bbcurveimogen: ok i'll try
5:11:46 PM Billi: and i can win this shit
5:11:49 PM bbcurveimogen: dino i think is closest
5:11:53 PM bbcurveimogen: dont meet my same fate
5:12:01 PM bbcurveimogen: oh wait
5:12:03 PM bbcurveimogen: dan is closest i think
5:12:06 PM bbcurveimogen: yeah
5:12:38 PM bbcurveimogen: 96ish?
5:12:47 PM bbcurveimogen: i just counted roughly half and then doubled the number
5:13:23 PM bbcurveimogen: ok i think it's 84
5:13:27 PM Billi: yeah
5:13:53 PM Billi: stay or fold?
5:13:55 PM bbcurveimogen: ok you should be closest between you, idno, and dann
5:14:00 PM bbcurveimogen: so stay, right?
5:16:40 PM bbcurveimogen: 86?
5:17:28 PM Billi: i guess 69
5:17:31 PM Billi: lolz
5:17:52 PM bbcurveimogen: shit, lori's closest
5:19:36 PM bbcurveimogen: sets of handprints? or just each handprint?
5:19:36 PM Billi: i was WAYYYY off
5:19:43 PM Billi: each handprint
5:19:47 PM bbcurveimogen: are you sure?
5:19:49 PM bbcurveimogen: better ask
5:19:53 PM Billi: i said 124
5:19:55 PM Billi: 125
5:19:57 PM bbcurveimogen: oh wow that's way off yeah
5:20:00 PM bbcurveimogen: i'd say 400 something
5:20:25 PM bbcurveimogen: call shenanigans
5:20:32 PM bbcurveimogen: so you can get 250 lol
5:20:42 PM Billi: should i stay or fold
5:20:45 PM Billi: dans at 700
5:20:48 PM bbcurveimogen: i have no clue. i'm guessing dan is closer
5:22:15 PM Billi: no matter what happens now the veto will get used
5:22:21 PM bbcurveimogen: right
5:22:34 PM Billi: so we're golden
5:22:36 PM bbcurveimogen: if it's used on lori, we'll backdoor dino?
5:22:41 PM Billi: yeah
5:22:46 PM bbcurveimogen: or if it's used at all we'll do that?
5:22:50 PM bbcurveimogen: gosh i wish jj were here
5:22:58 PM bbcurveimogen: i want to make sure he'd vote out dino if i put dino up
5:23:43 PM bbcurveimogen: 63?
5:24:08 PM bbcurveimogen: i'm almost positive it's 63
5:24:21 PM Billi: thats what i counted to
5:24:25 PM Billi: i said 50
5:25:09 PM bbcurveimogen: tell dan to make jessica autofold
5:25:21 PM bbcurveimogen: can he use his have power to do that?
5:25:29 PM bbcurveimogen: b/c then you'll get the point if you stay
5:25:49 PM bbcurveimogen: nice!
5:26:53 PM bbcurveimogen: if it's a game trivia question
5:26:57 PM bbcurveimogen: i can help
5:27:06 PM Billi: ok cool
5:27:27 PM bbcurveimogen: but it's probably forum posts or some bs
5:28:16 PM bbcurveimogen: oh jesus
5:28:25 PM bbcurveimogen: well i've never PMed the host that i know of
5:28:35 PM bbcurveimogen: if that helps
5:28:51 PM Billi: im thinking like 25ish
5:28:58 PM bbcurveimogen: yeah i have no clue
5:29:03 PM Billi: ok
5:29:06 PM bbcurveimogen: omg
5:29:07 PM bbcurveimogen: 5:28:51 PM bbcurveimogen: if billi wins this
5:28:55 PM bbcurveimogen: it will not be good
5:28:56 PM Dino: put me up
5:28:59 PM Dino: if he uses it
5:29:01 PM Dino: cuz i cant vote
5:29:26 PM bbcurveimogen: 5:28:59 PM Dino: if he uses it
5:29:01 PM Dino: cuz i cant vote
5:29:10 PM Dino: then jess and jj can keep me
5:29:12 PM bbcurveimogen: are you sure?
5:29:16 PM Dino: yeah its the only way to be sure
5:29:16 PM bbcurveimogen: ok yeah we'd have the votes

5:29:36 PM Billi: lol
5:29:56 PM bbcurveimogen: i cant believe
5:29:58 PM bbcurveimogen: he suggested that to me
5:30:13 PM Billi: lmfao
5:30:16 PM Billi: it works out perfectly
5:30:24 PM bbcurveimogen: win this shit lol
5:30:33 PM Billi: im trying son
5:31:10 PM bbcurveimogen: omg yessss
5:33:50 PM Billi: we have to pretend like im making a deal with you
5:33:58 PM Billi: to try to convince you to put dino up
5:34:10 PM Billi: so im chatting with you rightnow
5:34:14 PM Billi: annd blah blah blah
5:34:14 PM bbcurveimogen: ok
5:34:16 PM Billi: etc etc etc
5:34:16 PM bbcurveimogen: haha
5:35:24 PM Billi: but this is the gameplan right
5:35:28 PM Billi: i use it on lori
5:35:32 PM Billi: you put up dino
5:35:36 PM bbcurveimogen: on lori!?
5:35:43 PM Billi: wait
5:35:47 PM Billi: that was the plan right
5:35:48 PM Billi: lol
5:36:00 PM Billi: or no
5:36:00 PM bbcurveimogen: i thought you'd be taking off dan
5:36:12 PM Billi: really
5:36:18 PM Billi: it would be better if i took lori off
5:36:34 PM Billi: it would be easier to convince jj
5:37:13 PM Billi: dont you think?
5:37:15 PM Billi: i dunno
5:37:27 PM bbcurveimogen: i just think it'll be more conspicious if you took off lori randomly
5:37:30 PM bbcurveimogen: than if you took off dan
5:37:34 PM bbcurveimogen: if you take off dan, everyone's like oh ok
5:37:39 PM bbcurveimogen: if you take off lori, everyone's like wtf?!
5:37:47 PM Billi: well at this point everyone has to know im with lori
5:37:54 PM bbcurveimogen: fair enough
5:38:06 PM Billi: and theres no benefit for anyone to vote to keep dino over dan
5:38:10 PM Billi: unless theyre alligned with dino
5:38:26 PM Billi: and im not so sure dan's not dumb enough that the last person who talks to him will be able to sway his vote
5:38:40 PM Billi: and theres no way lori is going to keep dino
5:39:22 PM bbcurveimogen: ok fair enough
5:39:25 PM bbcurveimogen: i wont tell lori about the plan
5:39:29 PM bbcurveimogen: but she'll vote that way anyway
5:39:53 PM Billi: well it might be better if you bring lori in on it
5:40:00 PM Billi: because then if she wins hoh next week
5:40:07 PM Billi: cut a deal with her now
5:40:10 PM bbcurveimogen: well if i tell her about the plan to backdoor dino
5:40:12 PM bbcurveimogen: she'll rat me out
5:40:21 PM Billi: i dont think so
5:40:36 PM Billi: well its your call
5:40:38 PM Billi: im just thinking like
5:40:39 PM bbcurveimogen: i trust you
5:40:42 PM Billi: if she wins HOH next week
5:40:46 PM bbcurveimogen: whatever you decide is best by me
5:40:55 PM Billi: well im just thinking this whole thing out
5:41:07 PM Billi: if she wins HOH theres no reason for her not to put you up
5:41:12 PM Billi: if you cut a deal with her now
5:41:22 PM Billi: she might stick with it
5:41:24 PM Billi: i dunno
5:41:29 PM Billi: maybe you'll be better off
5:41:33 PM Billi: not to
5:41:40 PM Billi: because dino asked you to put him up
5:42:20 PM bbcurveimogen: right
5:42:28 PM bbcurveimogen: she's trying to make amends with me
5:42:34 PM bbcurveimogen: i'm just telling her that she wasn't my main target this week
5:46:06 PM bbcurveimogen: sure, veto lori if you want
5:46:08 PM bbcurveimogen: it makes the most sense
5:46:20 PM Billi: well im in this with you dude
5:46:29 PM Billi: i want to make sure its the best move for the both of us
5:46:42 PM bbcurveimogen: well dino volunteered to go up
5:46:47 PM bbcurveimogen: and i got his permission to clear it first with jess and jj
5:46:53 PM bbcurveimogen: and i already talked to jess about it
5:47:04 PM bbcurveimogen: i just worry that dino will be slightly more suspicious if he's up against dan
5:47:10 PM bbcurveimogen: than if he's up against loir
5:47:12 PM bbcurveimogen: lori
5:47:13 PM bbcurveimogen: but idk
5:47:41 PM Billi: yeah, but im not with dino
5:47:45 PM Billi: i never talk to the kid
5:47:51 PM Billi: so he can be suspicious of me all he wants
5:47:53 PM bbcurveimogen: fair enough
5:47:54 PM bbcurveimogen: right
5:47:56 PM Billi: he can lick the suspicious off my nuts
5:48:01 PM Billi: i dont even know what that means
5:48:10 PM Billi: im just on an insane power rush right now
5:48:15 PM bbcurveimogen: haha
5:48:19 PM bbcurveimogen: well i trust whatever you decide to do
5:48:23 PM bbcurveimogen: i see pros and cons to both
5:48:29 PM bbcurveimogen: just see if you can get a better deal with lori or dan
5:48:39 PM bbcurveimogen: it might be best to stick with lori since she'll be targeted before oyu
5:48:50 PM bbcurveimogen: b/c in the future you'll prob be targeted before dan if it's you two around
5:49:07 PM Billi: i know, im thinking about that too

[bbcurveimogen]

Wow, a lot just happened. Basically Billi got me, him, Lori, and Dan into a chat together and proposed a deal that if we got rid of Dino this round, that Lori and Dan would both keep me safe next round if either of them got HOH. They agreed (though Dan was the hold out for a while), so it looks like things are a go! All I have to worry about is Jessica getting HOH next week and getting revenge on me.

5:56:14 PM Billi: ok guys heres the deal
5:56:27 PM Billi: imogen has agreed to put dino up to go home this week
5:56:39 PM Billi: if we 3 agree not to put her up on the block next week
5:56:56 PM Lori: i agree if dino goes up and out i will not put her up
5:57:10 PM Dan: if you save me I agree
5:57:33 PM Dan: otherwise there is some other reason that I don't trust
5:57:37 PM Billi: ill use the veto on lori
5:57:42 PM Lori: omggg thank you
5:57:43 PM Dan: then no deal
5:57:47 PM Dan: send me to jury
5:57:48 PM Billi: even if you stay?
5:57:49 PM Billi: lol
5:57:55 PM Billi: youre not goign anywhere
5:57:57 PM Lori: please save me
5:58:00 PM Lori: i will vote to keep dan over dino
5:58:01 PM Dan: I am
5:58:05 PM Dan: I'm not agreeing to it
5:58:11 PM Billi: then quit if you have to
5:58:11 PM bbcurveimogen: dan we only need two votes
5:58:13 PM bbcurveimogen: billi and lori
5:58:16 PM Billi: otherwise dino is going home
5:58:17 PM bbcurveimogen: and i will break the tie to save you
5:58:20 PM Lori: i will vote to keep dan..10000%
5:58:22 PM Lori: i swear
5:58:23 PM Dan: so break the tie to save Lori?
5:58:29 PM Dan: otherwise you have some back handed plan
5:58:35 PM Billi: there is no other plan
5:58:39 PM bbcurveimogen: it's billi's choice to save who he wants
5:58:39 PM Billi: the plan is to get rid of dino
5:58:46 PM Billi: thats the plan
5:58:47 PM Dan: I don't agree
5:58:50 PM bbcurveimogen: i just agreed to put up dino as the replacement for whoever
5:59:02 PM Billi: you dont agree to get rid of the strongest challenge player in the game?
5:59:04 PM Dan: You would have put Dino up in the first place then
5:59:13 PM bbcurveimogen: no
5:59:17 PM Dan: yes
5:59:20 PM bbcurveimogen: because we couldnt risk him winning veto
5:59:32 PM bbcurveimogen: and plus
5:59:39 PM Dan: you dont wnat Billi to save me b/c then you have to put up Jessica or JJ
5:59:43 PM bbcurveimogen: i heard that dino was coming after me
5:59:44 PM Dan: and thus Lori would stay
5:59:50 PM bbcurveimogen: i have no control over billi
5:59:53 PM Dan: can we be real here?
5:59:57 PM Lori: i promise if you use veto on me i will keep dan over Dino 10000%
5:59:58 PM bbcurveimogen: billi is the one that told me who he was going to save
5:59:59 PM Lori: yes be real dan
5:59:59 PM Billi: this is real
6:00:01 PM Dan: You're not puttin gup Dino
6:00:01 PM Lori: we should be real
6:00:10 PM Dan: you would put Dino up against me
6:00:14 PM Dan: b/c then u have the votes for me to go
6:00:24 PM bbcurveimogen: no
6:00:32 PM bbcurveimogen: whoever is saved
6:00:33 PM bbcurveimogen: dino will go up
6:00:34 PM Lori: i want dino gone, isnt that apparent lol
6:00:35 PM bbcurveimogen: and dino will go home
6:00:39 PM Billi: why would we want you to go dan
6:01:00 PM Dan: so if there is no backdoor plan why save Lori?
6:01:08 PM bbcurveimogen: idk, billi?
6:01:11 PM Lori: i believe billi honestly because if he wanted to get one of us out why would he even come to us
6:01:13 PM Lori: whats the point
6:01:27 PM bbcurveimogen: i guess the only way i can see it
6:01:30 PM bbcurveimogen: is if lori is still up
6:01:33 PM Lori: no
6:01:34 PM Lori: please dont
6:01:40 PM Lori: let dino go
6:01:40 PM bbcurveimogen: people are more likely to vote her out
6:01:44 PM Dan: I'm not saying anything about your Lori or Billi
6:01:47 PM Dan: Imogen is the one
6:01:56 PM bbcurveimogen: i'm the one what?
6:01:56 PM Lori: save me, we have votes to get Dino out
6:01:59 PM Lori: billi and me
6:02:10 PM bbcurveimogen: whoever is saved
6:02:13 PM bbcurveimogen: they vote out dino with billi
6:02:15 PM bbcurveimogen: that's 2 votes
6:02:18 PM bbcurveimogen: out of 4
6:02:21 PM bbcurveimogen: i break the tie to send dino home
6:02:24 PM bbcurveimogen: i dont care who the veto is used on
6:02:28 PM bbcurveimogen: b/c the end result is the same
6:02:33 PM bbcurveimogen: it doesnt matter what jess or jj do
6:02:44 PM Lori: yes i will vote with billi, i promise
6:02:54 PM Lori: dino is obv the strongest person in the game
6:02:58 PM bbcurveimogen: i understand where you're coming from dan, but it's not my decision
6:02:59 PM bbcurveimogen: it's billi's
6:03:02 PM bbcurveimogen: and i have no say in that
6:03:20 PM Billi: lol
6:03:21 PM bbcurveimogen: lol
6:03:22 PM Billi: whatever
6:03:32 PM Billi: he'll be fine once he walks into the next HOH challenge
6:03:33 PM Lori: do you think dan is with dino?
6:03:48 PM Billi: nah
6:03:53 PM Billi: i just think he doesnt trust imogen
6:03:54 PM Lori: billi i would appreciate if you save me
6:04:06 PM Billi: and id appreciate a fucking blowjob
6:04:07 PM bbcurveimogen: i guess i did nom dan, so he reason to doubt me
6:04:14 PM bbcurveimogen: well if we can't trust dan's vote
6:04:17 PM bbcurveimogen: he should stay up as a nominee
6:04:22 PM Billi: right
6:04:23 PM bbcurveimogen: it's that simple in my mind
6:04:31 PM Billi: but the bottom line is that dino goes, its good for everyone
6:04:35 PM bbcurveimogen: oh clearly
6:04:41 PM Lori: im in agreement with that
6:04:48 PM bbcurveimogen: if the three of us want to win challenges going forward
6:04:54 PM bbcurveimogen: it's the only way
6:05:00 PM Billi: agreed
6:05:09 PM bbcurveimogen: and lori, you know the crazy thing about this all?
6:05:28 PM Lori: no
6:05:39 PM bbcurveimogen: during the veto, when it looked like you or dan would win, dino came to me and told me to put him up as a replacement nom since it'd be the safest way to get either of you out
6:05:46 PM bbcurveimogen: so dino volunteered to be put up as the replacement
6:05:55 PM Billi: WOW
6:06:00 PM Lori: youve got to be kidding me
6:06:04 PM Lori: you see how confident this gu ysi
6:06:09 PM Lori: guy is
6:06:24 PM bbcurveimogen: right
6:06:27 PM bbcurveimogen: and this will prove to you
6:06:29 PM bbcurveimogen: once and for all
6:06:33 PM bbcurveimogen: that i'm not f2 buddies with dino
6:06:36 PM bbcurveimogen: like you've been accusing me
6:06:37 PM bbcurveimogen: all the time
6:06:42 PM Lori: its jessica, cant believe it
6:06:51 PM Billi: i told you it was
6:06:55 PM bbcurveimogen: and arent dino and jessica both from orlando or something?
6:06:55 PM Lori: where is jj in all this, floating by
6:06:59 PM Billi: you wont listen to good old billi
6:07:05 PM Lori: o wow didnt realize that
6:07:08 PM Lori: they are both from orlando
6:07:15 PM bbcurveimogen: so they prob know each other in real life
6:07:18 PM Lori: wow
6:07:23 PM Dan: I accept the deal
6:07:30 PM Billi: yeah?
6:07:36 PM Dan: yes
6:07:42 PM Billi: thats what i like to hear
6:07:46 PM bbcurveimogen: ok. dan, lori, you'll both see that i'll be good to my word
6:07:53 PM bbcurveimogen: and i hope that you two will also be next round if you win hoh
6:07:55 PM Billi: now we've got two dicks and two pussies in this orgy
6:08:02 PM Lori: ty billi, ty imogen
6:08:13 PM Lori: can we confirm this now in post! lol
6:08:26 PM Billi: lol, yeah, just keep it on the down low
6:08:37 PM Billi: it will be so much sweeter when dino gets BLINDSIDED
6:08:39 PM Dan:
6:08:42 PM Lori: i know
6:08:51 PM bbcurveimogen: right
6:08:53 PM bbcurveimogen: dino won't be suspicious
6:09:00 PM bbcurveimogen: since he volunteered to go up during th pov
6:09:03 PM Lori: i cant believe he offered
6:09:09 PM Billi: thats so dumb, lol
6:09:16 PM Lori: jj and jessica MUST be with him
6:09:18 PM bbcurveimogen: and y'all can just lock in your votes and have that be that
6:09:19 PM Lori: how can he offer that
6:09:26 PM bbcurveimogen: well jess for sure
6:09:29 PM Lori: he knows i wouldnt vote for him
6:09:32 PM bbcurveimogen: and probably jj then yeah
6:09:46 PM bbcurveimogen: he probably thinks billi will take down dan so he doesnt have to worry about your vote, lori
6:09:50 PM Lori: and if billi is doing this then obv him and billi arent together..so he must know it will be 2-2 with imogen tiebreaker
6:10:02 PM Lori: o yeah thats another thing too imo, u may be right on that
6:10:08 PM bbcurveimogen: yeah. seriously guys, i'm risking a lot here b/c dino wont see my voting to evict him.
6:10:26 PM Lori: yeah we know you are imogen, but dino is so strong, this will be huge
6:10:37 PM Lori: brb guys
6:10:39 PM Lori: please dont go nowhere
6:10:40 PM Lori: BRB
6:10:43 PM Lori: k?
6:10:47 PM Billi: aight
6:11:18 PM Dan:

[bbcurveimogen]

And here are my private convos during the chat with Dan and with Lori:

6:05:54 PM bbcurveimogen: dude
6:05:58 PM bbcurveimogen: i know you dont trust me
6:05:59 PM bbcurveimogen: that's fine
6:06:03 PM bbcurveimogen: but you're safe this week
6:06:07 PM bbcurveimogen: no matter who billi uses the veto on
6:06:09 PM bbcurveimogen: it's that simple
6:08:00 PM Dan: I trust you if you do it
6:08:08 PM bbcurveimogen: i will
6:08:11 PM Dan: otherwise I'll be in jury and it wont matter any more lol
6:08:21 PM bbcurveimogen: frankly, dino's much better at challenges than you
6:08:27 PM bbcurveimogen: so it makes all the sense in the world for me to get rid of him over you
6:08:35 PM bbcurveimogen: plus, if i were lying straight to your face right now
6:08:44 PM bbcurveimogen: that'd be some dumb ass way to get your jury vote lol
6:09:55 PM Dan: lol
6:10:05 PM Dan: I dont vote like that but we'll see wha happens
6:10:08 PM Dan: hope you keep me
6:10:20 PM bbcurveimogen: you'll see
6:10:23 PM bbcurveimogen: my actions will speak for themselves
6:10:33 PM bbcurveimogen: like i said in my nom speech, you're a really good guy
6:10:37 PM bbcurveimogen: and i value that
6:11:10 PM Dan: Aww thanks
6:11:13 PM Dan: you're a nice girl
6:11:17 PM bbcurveimogen:



5:36:01 PM Lori: please save me, please
5:36:10 PM bbcurveimogen: i dont have the veto, silly
5:36:16 PM Lori: you have coup de tat
5:36:22 PM bbcurveimogen: god i wish
5:36:25 PM Lori: OMG
5:36:30 PM Lori: u made me shit
5:36:39 PM bbcurveimogen: no my announcement was my apology to you about your math skills
5:36:46 PM Lori: o wait hold on
5:38:06 PM bbcurveimogen: i'll tell you this much
5:38:15 PM Lori: i know u hate me and stuff, but just wanted to say that
5:38:15 PM bbcurveimogen: if you're really willing to make peace
5:38:26 PM bbcurveimogen: there's a good chance you'll still be here this week
5:38:35 PM Lori: i never had huge beef vs you, it was geared toward dino
5:38:41 PM Lori: i took it out on you cuz of you guys being allies
5:38:51 PM Lori: alot of what i did to you was for the show episode, i even told the host
5:40:55 PM bbcurveimogen: is there any trust left between us?
5:41:01 PM bbcurveimogen: if there is, we can talk
5:41:06 PM Lori: are u with dino
5:41:08 PM Lori: please be honest
5:41:22 PM Lori: were u always 100% boob power?
5:41:37 PM bbcurveimogen: honestly? i was floating between both sides at that time.
5:41:42 PM bbcurveimogen: if we're being completely honest
5:41:46 PM Lori: yes please be honest
5:41:50 PM bbcurveimogen: but
5:41:51 PM Lori: even if u say im a cunt and u hated me from day 1
5:41:53 PM bbcurveimogen: i'll tell you this much
5:41:58 PM bbcurveimogen: that's not true
5:42:03 PM bbcurveimogen: you were never my target this week
5:42:08 PM Lori: no im saying lol i perfer truth over all
5:42:41 PM bbcurveimogen: if things play out like i think they will
5:42:46 PM bbcurveimogen: you'll see what i mean at the veto ceremony
5:43:01 PM Lori: ok
5:43:15 PM bbcurveimogen: i'm sorry i can't be more direct than that
5:43:24 PM Lori: no i understand
5:43:29 PM bbcurveimogen: but i would honestly be surprised if you went home this week
5:43:40 PM Lori: i hope i dont
5:43:45 PM bbcurveimogen: and if any of this comes back to bite me in the ass, i guess i'll have to deal with it
5:44:31 PM Lori: it wont imogen
5:44:38 PM Lori: idk what people said about me
5:45:38 PM bbcurveimogen: well they were just upset at how crazy you were being
5:46:01 PM Lori: i know, the host really knows the real me...im def. not like that
5:46:05 PM Lori: i have gay friends
5:46:16 PM Lori: but i was trying to be crazy/psycho for show
5:46:21 PM Lori: and partly to hurt dino too
5:46:24 PM bbcurveimogen: i do have a question for you thought
5:46:26 PM bbcurveimogen: though
5:46:27 PM Lori: yes
5:46:33 PM bbcurveimogen: how surprised were you to not be evicted last round?
5:47:02 PM Lori: honestly, u guys arent stupid
5:47:05 PM Lori: the right eviction was makosi
5:47:09 PM Lori: i suck at these challenges
5:47:12 PM Lori: makosi is threat
5:47:24 PM bbcurveimogen: although you've done great at some of these challenges
5:47:27 PM bbcurveimogen: you almost won hoh that week
5:47:30 PM Lori: yeah
5:47:31 PM bbcurveimogen: and this one
5:47:31 PM Lori: and pov this time
5:47:41 PM Lori: makosi is a puzzle freak
5:47:44 PM Lori: anything puzzle n she wins
5:47:57 PM bbcurveimogen: right
5:48:00 PM bbcurveimogen: that's why we had to get rid of her
5:48:04 PM bbcurveimogen: b/c if she got to endgame
5:48:09 PM bbcurveimogen: we had no chance of winning that kind of stuff against her
5:48:42 PM Lori: if i was up against anyone i woulda been shocked i was stayin
5:48:44 PM Lori: except makosi
5:50:54 PM bbcurveimogen: fair enough
5:50:54 PM bbcurveimogen: brb
5:53:42 PM bbcurveimogen: back
5:53:49 PM bbcurveimogen: anyway, i'm trusting you with what i've told you so far
5:53:59 PM bbcurveimogen: and if any of it leaks, we can't work together anymore
5:54:01 PM bbcurveimogen: fair?
5:54:05 PM Lori: fair
5:54:19 PM Lori: i mean basically at this poin i want a clean slate
5:54:26 PM Lori: i dont want people to say im talking to everyone
5:54:28 PM Lori: teaming with everyone
5:54:32 PM bbcurveimogen: well you might have to work with people a bit to get that to happen
5:54:38 PM bbcurveimogen: but i can understand
5:55:25 PM Lori: so you never sent any chat logs to dino?
5:55:32 PM Lori: honestly
5:55:42 PM bbcurveimogen: chat logs about what? i rarely copy/paste chat logs
5:55:46 PM Lori: OMG
5:55:47 PM bbcurveimogen: i've learned my lesson from that
5:55:52 PM Lori: i cant believe it
5:55:56 PM bbcurveimogen: ?
5:56:05 PM Lori: you never told dino about boob power
5:56:28 PM bbcurveimogen: i honestly dont remember if i did. i very well may have, if we're being completely honest
5:56:31 PM bbcurveimogen: but you should also know
5:56:46 PM bbcurveimogen: that dino/jessica are crazy tight
5:56:51 PM bbcurveimogen: jess has never been with boob power i dont think
5:57:13 PM Lori: OMG
5:57:14 PM Lori: i cant believe it
5:57:24 PM Lori: all along it was jessica/dino when i thought it was u/dino
5:57:30 PM bbcurveimogen: yeah it def hasn't been me/dino
5:57:30 PM Lori: makosi even thought so
5:57:34 PM Lori: wow
5:57:38 PM bbcurveimogen: that's part of the reason we want dino out this round
5:57:42 PM bbcurveimogen: to break up him/jessica
5:57:44 PM bbcurveimogen: b/c they are crazy close
5:57:46 PM bbcurveimogen: he's like her keeper
5:58:42 PM Lori: so the f2 was jessica and dino
5:58:44 PM Lori: omg
5:59:01 PM bbcurveimogen: so you were right about dino being powerful
5:59:02 PM bbcurveimogen: just wrong about how
5:59:05 PM Lori: when i sent the email to everyone makosi was normal and jessi was normal u freaked out so im like ur the one
5:59:09 PM Lori: omg
6:00:12 PM bbcurveimogen: nope it wasnt me
6:00:16 PM bbcurveimogen: i just thought you only sent it to me
6:00:20 PM bbcurveimogen: and i was pissed you were accusing me
Changed status to Offline (6:10:56 PM)

[bbcurveimogen]

Here's the PM I just sent to JJ to fill him in:


JJ, a lot went on tonight! I wish you were here! Summary: Billi narrowly won veto over Dan and Lori and has decided he's going to use it, probably on Lori. He wants to backdoor Dino and I think this might be the time to do it. Plus, during the veto, Dino said that if Billi won, that I should put Dino up since the votes will be there to save him. Except, they won't. So, Billi is going to use the veto more than likely and then either Dino will go home 3-1 or I'll break the tie to send Dino home if it's a 2-2 vote. I haven't said a thing about your vote, so you haven't been compromised at all. As it stands, Billi will vote out Dino and Lori probably will, but we'll almost certainly need your vote in case Lori does some double cross action. Gosh, I wish you were on right now to talk to about all this. PM me back and let me know what you think. This is getting crazy!

xoxo
Imogen

[bbcurveimogen]

Lori and I just had a VERY interesting and shockingly honest conversation. It seems like we're back in each others good graces for now and that the targets next round would be Jessica and JJ for being super floaters.

6:30:31 PM bbcurveimogen: bye lori
6:30:35 PM bbcurveimogen: and in all honesty
6:30:36 PM bbcurveimogen: i dont hate you
6:30:37 PM Lori: bye imo
6:30:41 PM Lori: i dont hate you either
6:30:44 PM Lori: 100% honest
6:30:47 PM bbcurveimogen: i just didnt understand why you were always so paranoid and talking to everyone
6:30:58 PM bbcurveimogen: i even wrote some DRs a round or two ago
6:30:59 PM bbcurveimogen: where i was like
6:31:08 PM Lori: thats the thing, i was talking to everyone but not plotting w. everyone
6:31:09 PM bbcurveimogen: if lori would just calm down, she'd be in an amazing spot
6:31:24 PM bbcurveimogen: well i know that, like, in the head to head live hoh
6:31:34 PM bbcurveimogen: you were plotting with everyone to put up everyone else first
6:31:39 PM Lori: oh yeah def.
6:31:45 PM bbcurveimogen: so little stuff like that
6:31:46 PM Lori: because i didnt want dino to win
6:31:48 PM bbcurveimogen: right
6:31:59 PM bbcurveimogen: but you can see how it could look suspicious to everyone
6:32:36 PM Lori: yeah i hear you
6:33:02 PM Lori: heres my question to you
6:33:04 PM Lori: 100% honest
6:33:07 PM bbcurveimogen: ok go for it
6:33:12 PM Lori: if u win hoh again, do i go up again
6:33:31 PM bbcurveimogen: so that'd be at f5 at earliest?
6:33:44 PM Lori: yes
6:33:47 PM bbcurveimogen: if we can make a deal to keep each other safe
6:33:50 PM bbcurveimogen: and actually mean it
6:33:55 PM bbcurveimogen: and not throw each other under the bus
6:33:58 PM bbcurveimogen: in chats with other people
6:34:04 PM bbcurveimogen: then it could be a smart plan
6:34:08 PM bbcurveimogen: keep fighting in public
6:34:16 PM bbcurveimogen: keep each other safe in the meantime
6:34:23 PM Lori: that may be a good idea
6:34:30 PM bbcurveimogen: i guess my question to you
6:34:34 PM bbcurveimogen: is how can i be sure i can trust you?
6:34:40 PM bbcurveimogen: i want to trust you
6:35:29 PM Lori: i want to trust you too
6:35:35 PM Lori: i can be trusted
6:35:38 PM Lori: i could always be trusted from day 1
6:35:48 PM bbcurveimogen: ok well you'll see you can trust me this round when i boot dino
6:36:38 PM Lori: whats i see that you are golden in my eyes
6:36:45 PM Lori: u should post b4 u go
6:37:02 PM bbcurveimogen: i'm about to
6:39:38 PM bbcurveimogen: how about this as a speech?
6:39:44 PM bbcurveimogen: Ugh, clearly this is not what I was expecting to happen this round. I wish I could nominate Billi for being a racist asshole, but unfortunately the rules say that I can't since he wont the veto. Where's a coup de tat when I need one?

That only leaves me with three possible options: Dino, Jessica, and JJ.

Dino, since you volunteered to be the replacement nominee when we talked earlier, I think I'd like to take you up on your offer if that's OK. Dino, get your gorgeous butt up on that nomination chair, please.

With that said, this veto ceremony is adjourned.
6:40:13 PM Lori: thats good
6:40:14 PM bbcurveimogen: and i could also tell him to make sure he doesn't catch any crabs you may have left on the nomination chair
6:40:15 PM bbcurveimogen: lol
6:40:24 PM bbcurveimogen: if you want to keep up our animosity
6:40:29 PM bbcurveimogen: or not, either way
6:40:41 PM Lori: up to you
6:40:57 PM bbcurveimogen: would you be offended? i just dont want you to feel attacked in my speech
6:41:06 PM bbcurveimogen: i can just leave you out all together if that's easier
6:41:06 PM Lori: no i wont, cuz i know its planned
6:41:08 PM bbcurveimogen: ok
6:41:12 PM bbcurveimogen: right
6:41:17 PM bbcurveimogen: that's why i wanted to show you the speech first
6:41:23 PM bbcurveimogen: so you'd know i'm being honest
6:41:24 PM Lori: ill probably reply with "screw you cunt"
6:41:26 PM Lori: or something
6:41:27 PM bbcurveimogen: lol
6:41:36 PM Lori: cuz if i dont answer that would look suspicious
6:41:51 PM bbcurveimogen: right
6:42:34 PM bbcurveimogen: ok it's up
6:42:37 PM Lori: if you contacted jj and told him you want dino gone, like later tomorrow, just to see where he's at...so if u see 2-2 u know hes the culprit, if you see 3-1 then you know hes a floater
6:42:54 PM bbcurveimogen: yeah i'm going to feel him out about this
6:43:00 PM Lori: dont bother with jessica
6:43:03 PM bbcurveimogen: oh clearly not
6:43:04 PM Lori: we know thats a lost cause
6:43:05 PM bbcurveimogen: plus
6:43:07 PM bbcurveimogen: what has she done
6:43:09 PM bbcurveimogen: this whole game?
6:43:17 PM Lori: yeah but ppl can say that about jj and me
6:43:20 PM bbcurveimogen: no
6:43:22 PM bbcurveimogen: i dont think so
6:43:25 PM bbcurveimogen: you both have played social games
6:43:27 PM bbcurveimogen: and actually talked to people
6:43:29 PM bbcurveimogen: on a regular basis
6:43:39 PM Lori: true, not jessica social even?
6:43:46 PM bbcurveimogen: jessica is hardly ever on
6:43:49 PM bbcurveimogen: and hardly chats when she is
6:43:53 PM Lori: shes just rid dinos coattails basically
6:43:56 PM bbcurveimogen: mhmm
6:43:58 PM Lori: wow
6:44:04 PM Lori: i always always thought it was u and not her
6:44:06 PM bbcurveimogen: and has she ever come to you with her own game chat?
6:44:11 PM Lori: no
6:44:16 PM bbcurveimogen: it's always people coming to her
6:44:22 PM Lori: shes trying to play the same game sophie played last season
6:44:26 PM bbcurveimogen: right
6:44:35 PM Lori: jessica and jj are super dangerous cuz they are under the radar
6:44:39 PM bbcurveimogen: mhmm
6:44:45 PM bbcurveimogen: do you realize that jj has never won hoh or veto or been a have not
6:44:49 PM bbcurveimogen: ever
6:44:51 PM bbcurveimogen: this whole game
6:44:56 PM bbcurveimogen: directly down the middle
6:45:02 PM Lori: yeah i know
6:45:09 PM Lori: never been nom'd either
6:46:34 PM bbcurveimogen: right
6:46:38 PM bbcurveimogen: how is that possible?
6:46:53 PM Lori: idk, jessica either
6:46:56 PM Lori: you too i think lol
6:47:04 PM bbcurveimogen: jess was nommed once
6:47:08 PM Lori: she was?
6:47:08 PM bbcurveimogen: i've won a couple comps
6:47:17 PM bbcurveimogen: yeah she was the replacement nom when billi was hoh
6:47:24 PM Lori: oo right
6:47:33 PM bbcurveimogen: so jess and i have at least been noms or hoh or something
6:47:48 PM Lori: so would we put up jj.jessica if one of us won hoh?
6:47:57 PM bbcurveimogen: that would make sense
6:48:09 PM Lori: and pray that none of them win veto
6:48:14 PM bbcurveimogen: right
6:48:32 PM bbcurveimogen: dont forget to respond to my nom speech
6:48:37 PM bbcurveimogen: and call me a bitch or whatever
6:49:02 PM Lori: ok lol

[bbcurveimogen]

I just had a good talk with JJ. He seems a bit conflicted about this vote, but I hope I managed to convince him to boot Dino (so I don't have to be the one to break the tie and be the ultimate bad guy). I really hope that booting Dino doesn't come back to bite me since I'll be the best challenge whore remaining, but I feel confident with JJ and Billi so my only main worries are Lori, Dan, and Jessica. Out of those three, Lori is the only one that has a shot at winning a challenge, so she's my only main worry right now, but I should have a deal with her next round to stay safe on the off chance that she wins HOH.

bbcurveimogen: jj!
bbcurveimogen: i'm going invisible but i'm still here
bbcurveimogen: i just signed on to see if you were here
JJ: Hey ah ok.. I'm using my brother's laptop so he doesnt have AIM
bbcurveimogen: ok
JJ: so I'm using the net one not sure how it works lol
JJ: how are u
bbcurveimogen: seems to be working fine so far. i'm doing ok. you?
JJ: sorry got d/c
JJ: just as you said that ha
bbcurveimogen: haha no worries
JJ: i'm good thanks... what the hell happen?!
bbcurveimogen: omg jj i wish you were there last night
bbcurveimogen: basically the veto came down to a tie between lori, dan, and billi
bbcurveimogen: billi won in a tiebreaker
bbcurveimogen: and then decided he wanted to use it on lori as a way to get rid of dino
JJ: would have preferred Dan winning frankly
bbcurveimogen: right
JJ: is that his only aim ... JUST to get rid of Dino
JJ: has he got any other plans
bbcurveimogen: not that i can tell. i dont think he'd be stupid enough to permanently attach himself to lori
bbcurveimogen: i think he wants lori and jess out next after dino
JJ: well I don't know, he's such a crazy player right now
bbcurveimogen: right
bbcurveimogen: i wish i could have put him up
JJ: I've always known that hiim and Dino just don't talk... so it doesn't surprise me too much
bbcurveimogen: but he won so my hands were tied
bbcurveimogen: and the crazy thing is
bbcurveimogen: during the veto
bbcurveimogen: dino approached me and volunteered to go up as the replacement over you or jess
bbcurveimogen: so that's why i put him up
JJ: well obviously that works... his own fault for losing his votes for three weeks
bbcurveimogen: but then i remembered a conversation you and i had about needing to split up dino/jess sooner than later
bbcurveimogen: right
bbcurveimogen: so i wanted to see where your head was at about voting out dino over dan
JJ: here's the thing.. I love Dino. But he'll kick our butts if he ever got to F2
bbcurveimogen: right
bbcurveimogen: or even close
bbcurveimogen: i was thinking about this next hoh too
bbcurveimogen: if dino goes
bbcurveimogen: the only real competitors will be you and billi
JJ: the next HOH is what I am most worried about
bbcurveimogen: unless it's some random ass competition
bbcurveimogen: well here's the other thing
bbcurveimogen: i made sure not to bring your name up at all yesterday
bbcurveimogen: so that you wouldnt be tied into anything
bbcurveimogen: but
bbcurveimogen: billi did tell me on his on
JJ: If Dan stays, then Dan, Lori and Billi stand as the three that will have random nominations no doubt
bbcurveimogen: that he likes you and wants to keep you around
JJ: well I like Billi too and I can understand he's need to shake thigns up... its why he did what he did during his own HOH
bbcurveimogen: right exactly
bbcurveimogen: his hoh really jumpstarted the game
JJ: preciselyt
JJ: precisely*
JJ: but I'd feel dreadful for Dino ...
bbcurveimogen: yeah
bbcurveimogen: but it was going to have to happen anyway
JJ: I get that we're not meant to play with emotion
bbcurveimogen: and someone was going to have to strike first
bbcurveimogen: right
JJ: ultimately this makes sense
bbcurveimogen: and i'd say that you could even vote to keep dino to save your own ass
bbcurveimogen: since billi is a lock to vote out dino
bbcurveimogen: and lori promises she will
bbcurveimogen: but there's still something i dont trust about lori
bbcurveimogen: i could see her faking this animosity with dino
JJ: voting to keep Dino means that everyone else in the house doesn't agree with the vote
JJ: faking it?
bbcurveimogen: well b/c lori always talks to people about asking if they want to fake a fight
JJ: Dino Inbox messaged me last night
bbcurveimogen: what'd he say?
JJ: I'll copy and paste it
bbcurveimogen: ok
JJ: I'm sorry this turned out this way. I thought Imogen would have nominated Billi vs. Lori. But I think she has something with Billi (or HAD something with him). I knew he'd win veto. ;__; But he saved Lori & I told Imogen she had to nominate me. There was no other chance to save our alliance. I'm still not allowed to vote this week, so if she had put you or Jessica up, Billi and Lori would have controlled the votes to save Dan. :\I'm really hoping this doesn't backfire. I don't want to go home, and I want to continue playing the game with you. I know we haven't spoken in a long while, but I'm here to play endgame with you. I miss being your fish. =[Talk to you soon, I hope. <3PS. If I end up going home... do well. K?
bbcurveimogen: poor dino
JJ: I know ... :[
JJ:
bbcurveimogen: for the record, i dont have anything with billi. we just have similar goals at the moment it seems
bbcurveimogen: his racist bullshit is as bad as lori's homophobic bullshit
JJ: yeah I didn't buy into that assumption anyway
bbcurveimogen: and i made sure to call him out on it in my speech
JJ: why does he talk like that -__-
bbcurveimogen: ugh idk it drives me crazy
bbcurveimogen: so anyway, obviously vote how you feel you need to
JJ: next HOH is going to be so tough
bbcurveimogen: i just worry about lori going back on her word to vote out dino
bbcurveimogen: yeah, but you can do it! look at your weak competition
JJ: will you help me if its one that can use help?
bbcurveimogen: is jessica really going to win an hoh to avenge dino? she cant win
bbcurveimogen: of course
bbcurveimogen: you're who i want to win this next hoh
bbcurveimogen: b/c while billi and i agree this round
bbcurveimogen: who knows what he's bought into with lori and dan
bbcurveimogen: i dont like when he has power
JJ: I get that its an open HOH .. but I've not faired great ... ok lets concentrate on this vote for now. As much as I love Dino my loyalties lie firmly with you and that won't change so I'd like to know what you think
bbcurveimogen: he gets too creative with it
JJ: thats defintely a way to put it
bbcurveimogen: i say we just lock it up with your vote and billi's and knock dino out
bbcurveimogen: i'm more than willing to break the tie
bbcurveimogen: but i dont trust lori as a secure 2nd vote against dino
JJ: I get that, at least if Lori votes to save Dino then we know something was weird there
bbcurveimogen: oh absolutely
bbcurveimogen: this vote count will be very telling
JJ: I'll vote out Dino and just write him a lengthy goodbye message explaining it without going into too much detail about us
bbcurveimogen: being upfront
bbcurveimogen: that's probably smart
JJ: I just don't want to talk to him before the vote
bbcurveimogen: how will you explain your vote to him then?
bbcurveimogen: oh right me either
bbcurveimogen: he'll probably sense that something's up
bbcurveimogen: but idk what else to do
bbcurveimogen: if he drags him and jess any closer to the f2, they have so much power
bbcurveimogen: b/c he gets his voting power back next round
bbcurveimogen: and these days, 2 votes are a majority to evict
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JJ: sorry got d/c again
bbcurveimogen: no worries
JJ: I'm going to make it clear that I've spoken to the voters and it seems he is majority based on his immense record in comepetitions and that I did not want to be the odd vote out as it would effect the rest of my game
bbcurveimogen: that's fair
bbcurveimogen: my only worry in all of this
bbcurveimogen: and this is where i need your help
JJ: at the end of the day ... the four us have to be broken up at some point
bbcurveimogen: is that the past two people - makosi and now dino - have been voted out for being good at challenges
JJ: yeah I know .. which bodes badly for you
bbcurveimogen: right
JJ: this is why I HAVE to win next HOH
bbcurveimogen: so my thought is that our next job
JJ: I'm the only person that can garautee your safety
bbcurveimogen: in addition to you winning hoh
bbcurveimogen: needs to be changing the groupthink of the house
bbcurveimogen: to realizing how much power the floaters (people like dan/jessica) have
bbcurveimogen: and how they're just floating their way to the end
bbcurveimogen: if we can keep planting that seed, people will maybe realize that dan and jess are just going to do nothing and end up as the f2 if the rest of us dont do anything
JJ: that I'm happy to do and have been supporting that thought for as long as I've been able to speak
JJ: Dan especially infuriates me with his lack of social skills
bbcurveimogen: right. we just need to move it up to one of the top conversation pieces soon
bbcurveimogen: right
JJ: Well ... if I can win HOH ... I'll make it absolutely clear what needs to be done... what does this mean though, we keep Lori lingering around?
bbcurveimogen: well we can backdoor her if we want
bbcurveimogen: or put her up
bbcurveimogen: we just need to get the groupthink on that subject in case someone else wins like billi or lori
bbcurveimogen: and maybe they can be swayed to doing that and keeping us safe. are we the last two people who've never been nominated?
JJ: we are indeed the last two people never to be nominated
bbcurveimogen:
JJ: I'd like to keep that record for now lol
bbcurveimogen: yeah clearly
bbcurveimogen: we're like the danielle/jason of this season
JJ: this is why I HAVE to win HOH, it's my time ... I've been ready for weeks
bbcurveimogen: what type of comp do you think it will be?
bbcurveimogen: i always get nervous when they are live
JJ: me too ... if it can be like the one Dino won.. that'd be ace
JJ: but it could be anything, what was this pov about
bbcurveimogen: it was like
bbcurveimogen: she'd show a picture
bbcurveimogen: and you had 20 seconds to say how many of a certain object was in it
bbcurveimogen: and then closest would win, but you had to wager whether you were the closest or furthest after the guesses were revealed
bbcurveimogen: and, of those who stayed in it, if you were closest you got a point
bbcurveimogen: if you were furthest, you were out of the game
bbcurveimogen: it was really complicated
JJ: yeah sounds it
bbcurveimogen: anyway, i misunderstood the rules and was the first out
JJ: lol I do find LIVE comps can go any which way
JJ: I doubt Jessica will even turn up .. so Lori, Billi, Dan and Me
bbcurveimogen: right
bbcurveimogen: you have a really good shot
bbcurveimogen: brb
JJ: here's hoping
JJ: Dan's talking to me now
bbcurveimogen: back
bbcurveimogen: ok let me know if he says anything interesting?
JJ: I doubt he even knows how to spell interesting but yes I will
bbcurveimogen: i imagine he's just lobbying for your vote
bbcurveimogen: lol ikr!
bbcurveimogen: ok
JJ: oh no doubt ... but after his rude display in picking Billi 'randomly' as he put it ... he'll be tredding on egg shells
bbcurveimogen: oh clearly
JJ: That decision was definitely not random ... Dan also Inboxed me yesterday
bbcurveimogen: oh was it not random?
JJ: his decision to pick Billi was not random ... how does someone come to that decision without actually indicating how he came to that decision
bbcurveimogen: is it because he/lori/billi are together?
bbcurveimogen: right lol
JJ: well it does make me wonder
bbcurveimogen: right
JJ: I don't trust him ... which is what makes this decision odd
bbcurveimogen: oh that you'd be voting to keep him?
JJ: yeah ... stranger things have happen though
bbcurveimogen: well like i said
JJ: arfgh ... he's taking centuries to reply againa
bbcurveimogen: i trust your decision, so vote however you feel you need to
JJ: at least this time he indicated he's at work
bbcurveimogen: right
bbcurveimogen: my only thought though is that if it's 2-2, i'm probably still going to break the tie against dino, so you might as well vote to keep dan and save face
JJ: but thats the thing, I mean if we trust Lori's word and it's Jess me vs Billi Lori then its a tie and it falls on you ... how will you go about that?
bbcurveimogen: i'd probably still get rid of dino
bbcurveimogen: right?
JJ: because getting rid of him now is important?
bbcurveimogen: that's my gut feeling
bbcurveimogen: b/c he gets his vote back next round and could get hoh too
bbcurveimogen: and he's not stupid. he'd go after us soon i think
JJ: well I'll do it for us then... we were going to have to take that route at some point
bbcurveimogen: i guess i just get really nervous about leaving someone like him in the game too long?
bbcurveimogen: right. i dont know when we'll have dino as a post-veto nom again
JJ: that's a good point
JJ: I'm still scared about HOH though
bbcurveimogen: well you have a much better shot at winning against dan
bbcurveimogen: than you do against dino
JJ: if it goes into Lori/Billi's power it could be time up for us ...
bbcurveimogen: if that worst case scenario comes up
bbcurveimogen: we still have veto
bbcurveimogen: and i think we can weasel our way into not both being nommed
JJ: Lori's gotten so close these days
bbcurveimogen: right
JJ: I'm gonna be going soon, to my aunts and then will get onto my laptop .. will you still be on?
bbcurveimogen: i should be around yeah
bbcurveimogen: might step out a bit for lunch
bbcurveimogen: but i should be here
bbcurveimogen: when is the next hoh?
JJ: then we'll talk more then, if you step out just drop me an offline message and I'll read it
JJ: tomorrow hopefully
bbcurveimogen: cheers
bbcurveimogen: yeah
JJ: I cannot do tonight
bbcurveimogen: yeah fair
bbcurveimogen: jessica is going to crap herself
bbcurveimogen: poor girl
bbcurveimogen: she'll actually have to play for herself
JJ: well she's not done a great deal for us except voting with us
bbcurveimogen: right
JJ: if she has nothing/nobody left she might still lean on us more... or she'll go the other way and announce us as a foresome ... which might not be great for us
bbcurveimogen: well it wont be a foursome anymore
JJ: but they might still pin point us being a two
bbcurveimogen: no, i've worked to distance myself from you in convos
bbcurveimogen: not throwing you under the bus
bbcurveimogen: but just saying we dont get to talk much
JJ: well I've done a good job too so lets hope Jess does not open her mouth
bbcurveimogen: if she does, we'll just lie and say she's desperate
bbcurveimogen: or
bbcurveimogen: we can say we were lumped into their foursome by convenience
JJ: gosh Dan's delayed replies result in the most dead conversation ever
bbcurveimogen: but just b/c they were a pair doesnt mean we were
bbcurveimogen: right i know!
bbcurveimogen: i hate IMing with him so much
JJ: well he asked me if I've spoken to the voters, I then said I'm happy to chat about this as I have to head to my aunts now but I'll be back on in 20 mins and I asked if he will still be on and I've got NOTHING back
JJ: seriously .. either don't come on AIM during work ... or actually reply at a decent pace
bbcurveimogen: ikr!
JJ: anyway I'll be on shortly
JJ: speak to you then
bbcurveimogen: ok
bbcurveimogen: later!

[bbcurveimogen]

So, our plan worked and Dino's gone. And, because I convinced JJ that I wasn't sure of Lori's vote, I made sure he voted against Dino too so I wouldn't have to be the ultimate bad guy and break the tie. Now, the blood is more on JJ's hands. Sorry, JJ. O:)